📄 Morning session opening — Friday, May 12, 1995
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Morning session opening

Date: Friday, May 12, 1995 • Utterances: 23
Judge Ito opens the session with appearances and handles two pre-jury matters: Carl Douglas raises a discovery dispute over prosecution claims that thousands of dollars in cash were found in Simpson's bag at the time of his June 17th arrest, and the prosecution flags a concern that defense questioning about scientific 'controversy' amounts to an improper Frye general-acceptance challenge. Neufeld counters that contested methodology goes to jury weight, not just admissibility. Ito partially agrees but notes the prior day's approach was inappropriate.
1 (Appearances as heretofore noted.)
2 (Janet M. Moxham, CSR no. 4855, official reporter.)
3 (Christine M. Olson, CSR no. 2378, official reporter.)
4 (The following proceedings were held in open court, out of the presence of the jury:)
5 THE COURT:

Back on the record in the Simpson matter. Mr. Simpson is again present before the Court with his counsel, Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Cochran, Mr. Blasier, Mr. Scheck, Mr. Neufeld. Mr. Douglas.

6 MR. DOUGLAS:

Your Honor, good morning.

7 THE COURT:

Wait a minute. I need to do the other side. The People are represented by Mr. Clarke and Mr. Darden. Mr. Douglas, good morning.

8 MR. DOUGLAS:

I have a small matter, your Honor, that my client has brought to my attention concerning discovery. There was, in Miss Lewis' comments yesterday to the Court, a repeated mention of there having been thousands of dollars of cash that was in some bag of Mr. Simpson's on the 17th when he was arrested. Everything that I know about the case belies that contention, that there were not thousands of dollars of cash in Mr. Simpson's bag or in his possession, and I would simply want to ask the District Attorney's office for whatever discovery they may have confirming the allegations that Miss Lewis makes, because Mr. Simpson believes it not true and wants to see what facts they are basing the claim that thousands of dollars were in his possession on the 17th. It is a small matter and hopefully can be resolved informally.

9 THE COURT:

All right. Mr. Douglas, we do have a discovery matter set for this afternoon, so we will take it up on that calendar.

10 MR. DOUGLAS:

Thank you, your Honor.

11 THE COURT:

All right. Counsel, anything else we need to take up? Mr. Clarke?

12 MR. CLARKE:

I have two items. One, at the Court's convenience we would like to approach you at side bar, it doesn't have to be right now. It relates solely to scheduling of witnesses.

13 THE COURT:

All right.

14 THE CLERK:

The second item relates to the evidence yesterday, and the Court will recall, I'm sure, when the Court asked the witness a question about controversy, we believe that to be clearly a Frye general acceptance type question. And at this point our only concern is with regard to further questioning in that area by the Defense and at that point I just want to alert the Court, we believe that truly to be Frye general acceptance type questioning, and if that occurs, then obviously we are going to object as totally irrelevant to this proceeding.

15 THE COURT:

All right. Anything else?

16 MR. NEUFELD:

I can respond very briefly if the Court wants it.

17 THE COURT:

Mr. Neufeld.

18 MR. NEUFELD:

Sure. Your Honor, I think there is no question that to the extent that the witness acknowledges or facts come out that certain assumptions or methods that they are relying on here are highly contested or controversial, is not just a Frye issue but also is a question of weight for the consideration of the jury. The jury can decide how much weight to give the testimony on the weight, depending upon whether there is a consensus behind it or whether it is a minority position. Whether or not it is admissible, I think the jury is free to give it as much value as they see fit, and one of the ways they can assess that value is by knowing that significant numbers of the community, both in stature and number, disagree.

19 THE COURT:

Perhaps, but the manner in which it was attempted yesterday was not appropriate. All right. Let's have the jury.

KEY QUOTE
20 (Brief pause.)
21 MR. NEUFELD:

Your Honor, so that we can avoid any other controversy, I was going to ask the witness as a first question whether or not having--

22 (The following proceedings were held in open court, in the presence of the jury:)
23 THE COURT:

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated. All right. Mr. Neufeld, with the court reporter, please.

Temperature

procedural

Key Quotes (3)

Carl Douglas
Mr. Simpson believes it not true and wants to see what facts they are basing the claim that thousands of dollars were in his possession on the 17th.
Flags a factual dispute over the contents of Simpson's bag on the day of the Bronco chase/arrest — potentially relevant to flight narrative and state of mind.
Peter Neufeld
Whether or not it is admissible, I think the jury is free to give it as much value as they see fit, and one of the ways they can assess that value is by knowing that significant numbers of the community, both in stature and number, disagree.
Neufeld draws a line between Frye admissibility and jury weight — arguing contested science can still be undermined before the jury even if it clears the Frye threshold.
Lance A. Ito
Perhaps, but the manner in which it was attempted yesterday was not appropriate.
Ito's terse rebuke signals he will police the defense's approach to challenging scientific methodology, even if he acknowledges the underlying point has merit.

Evidence (1)

Informal
Cash allegedly found in Simpson's bag at the time of his June 17th arrest, referenced by witness Miss Lewis the prior day
disputed — defense contests the factual basis and requests discovery

Notable Exchanges (2)

George ClarkePeter NeufeldLance A. Ito
Clarke alerts the court that defense questioning about scientific 'controversy' is a Frye general-acceptance issue and signals intent to object. Neufeld argues the contested nature of methodology is independently relevant to jury weight. Ito closes it by agreeing in principle but admonishing yesterday's approach.
strategic
Carl DouglasLance A. Ito
Douglas raises the cash-in-bag discovery dispute; Ito efficiently routes it to the afternoon discovery calendar.
routine

Witness Demeanor

(Brief pause.)

Objections

None recorded
Proceeding 7902 • 23 utterances
Criminal Trial
Department 103
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